Tuesday, September 3, 2019

Waking Up From Deception of NAR - Part 6

I wrote this on Facebook April 11, 2019.  That was the week I had quit House Fire Ministries and was waking up from the deceptive sleep I was in.  Little did I know what battles we were about to face in the months to come.  Not only did I wake up, I was going to see the damage done to my family but especially to my son....

Original Facebook post here
"I've had a hard time writing this because I'm unsure if I need to outright show some false teaching I fell into with names or just give a warning as to what to watch out for. So I'll start out with some warnings about a previous revival that was very damaging to many churches back in the 90's. Churches I knew at that time got involved with the Brownsville revival. At first glance it was pretty awesome. People in church were falling all over the place, laughing for up to an hour, or slain in the spirit for an hour or longer. Some even barking like dogs or slithering like snakes in other churches involved in US. I went to a revival like this in Phoenix and in Chandler but it originated in Pensacola, Florida. However, it was later learned that this was a counterfeit of the Holy Spirit. Unless renounced, it brought many problems thereafter. I still see the damage from it 20 years later. Once someone I knew renounced his involvement with that revival, he was instantly healed from a sickness.

Fast forward to now. I recently heard of a revival coming from Nathan Morris and Lydia S. Marrow in Peoria, Az. I was excited. I didn't know anything about them but wanted to check it out. When I got to the church I thought it was interesting that people ran for their seats. That was kind of exciting because I figured people must be excited for God. Wow! The sermon was pretty awesome but looking back I realize now that I've gotten caught up in some preachers that more throw out slogans than read straight from the bible. Slogans sound good but the problem is it can be taken as biblical truth. 

My pastor at New Heights reads a text from the scripture, talks about it, more text from the scripture, talks about it. All the way down till end of sermon. So we have to be careful about we learn in context.

Drunk in the Spirit with Nathan Morris

During the sermon there were a few times that Nathan Morris was so "drunk in the spirit" that he could hardly stand up or preach. After the sermon, he had us go through a Fire Line (impartation line). This is where he stands up on a chair and 2 lines are formed. Our lines would walk underneath him and as we passed he would lay his hands on us. He usually wouldn't say anything but would blow on us or just put his hand on our head. My husband said as he went under, he felt a strong wind go straight up into his nose and mouth. I went back to the video later and saw that the pastor had barely did a quick blowing on the top of his head. Nothing more. 

About 90% of the church fell and had to be carried off and laid somewhere. At first glance, it seemed awesome. His reason for doing this is because he wanted to do an impartation onto everyone. I decided to look into who Nathan Morris is and discovered that he was saved out of the Brownsville revival and is continuing it but under a different name. It's now called the Bay Revival. I didn't believe it at first but I posted the picture for you to see.

Fast forward even more, my family began to experience some things in our personal life and it was baffling. Were we being attacked because we're doing something right? Or are we being attacked because we got ourselves involved in something that wasn't right? I decided to do some study work into some of my favorite preachers. The more I looked into the teachings, the more I became shocked. 

Next was the music I was listening to that was labeled as Praise and Worship. I probably should give a list into some names I discovered but I won't say why and will let you do your own study work if you decide to look into it on your own. Lets just say I dumped my entire 117 song Youtube playlist of Christian songs and I'm building it up by scratch. I hope this post doesn't come as a judging post but more as a warning out of love. Since we have discovered these things, we have lived in freedom but at a price of almost (now completely gone) losing friendships. But I've learned to be a God pleaser, not a man pleaser. 

Heidi and Rolland Baker ministering In bizarre "new" ways at Bethal

Preachers I have been studying that led me into some things that weren't right doctrine:

Kenneth Copeland-
Todd White
Steven Furtick 
Nathan Morris
Lydia S Marrow
John Kilpatrick
Bill Johnson
Brian Houston
Todd Bentley
Rick Warren
Joseph Prince
Steve Hill

Rick JoynerBenny Hinn- 
Heidi Baker
Rolland Baker
Joel Osteen
TD Jakes
Carl Lentz
Naked Cowboy event at Hillsong church

and more... 
Because they believe themselves to be modern-day apostles and prophets, they place heavy emphasis on extra-biblical “revelation”. The Apostle Paul, in 1 Corinthians 4:6, said “…so that you may learn from us not to go beyond what is written, so that none of you will become arrogant and boast in favor of one against the other”. The Word of God has been written, and the canon is closed.

Music I studied and discovered wrong doctrine in the lyrics:

Bethel Worship
Hillsong Worship
Lauren Daigle
Toby Mac
Elevation Worship (with Steven Furtick)
Jesus Culture (part of Hillsong church)
and soooo many more but still studying.

Yes, I know who I'm singing to. Personally. But some of the lyrics are downright wrong in doctrine or never mentions Holy Spirit, God, or Jesus. The last part didn't bother me as much until I discovered the church behind the band and their beliefs.

I don't write this out of anger or revenge. Especially not to hurt anyone. It took me awhile to write this because I was worried it'd be taken wrong and judgmental. But I want to warn out of love for my fellow Christians. Be careful in these times because there is a lot of counterfeit revivals going around with "signs and wonders", which will be a separate post I'll be doing."

(End of Facebook post)

Very good article about Bethel church and Jesus Culture HERE

"With any story of apostasy, we would do well to remember the Spirit's instruction in Philippians 2:12-13, where the Apostle Paul wrote, "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure."

Excellent video below about common phrases and scriptures misused by people in NAR or Word of Faith movement.

Words taken from the website Deception in the Church:
I have seen, especially of late, "words of knowledge" and "prophetic" messages to the church getting way out of hand. Some Christians mistake human intuition and even demonic voices, whether actually correct or incorrect, for the "still small voice" of the Spirit. Sometimes people are "proclaiming", "declaring" and "speaking things into being" so loudly it becomes almost impossible for them to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit anymore. It is a dangerous thing to promote what you are saying as a direct word from God.

I asked myself often, "Can't Satan also say things about my past and whisper in the ears of those deceived?"  When someone tells you your past, it makes you more susceptible to believe what they say about your future, right?  And sometimes they give a GREAT word that's so positive and amazing!  Things I heard often was prosperity (lots of money coming), fame (this was promised to me a lot for some reason), and greatness (you're gonna go into all the world and even write a book!  Everyone will seek you out).  Everything was beautiful, amazing, wonderful.  I got so caught up in all these promises and "what was coming" that I couldn't hardly focus on today, my own personal issues that needed to be dealt with, or sin in my life.  I just wanted my promises and I wanted them now.  

Then I woke up.....


  1. "I got so caught up in all these promises and "what was coming" that I couldn't hardly focus on today, my own personal issues that needed to be dealt with, or sin in my life." Wow - this is so true. Your comment on sin, I think, is really important. This is the exposure the enemy doesn't want.

    I can't tell you how many times I've been told I'm going to have hundreds of millions of dollars and rub elbows with the super-famous. I don't even NEED money, I'm already well-off. Besides, the Holy Spirit hasn't put a plan in front of me with what to do with it even if I had it. The canned answer? "Well, that's why you're getting it, because you can handle it." Sigh. Ironically, my wealth came as a result of quitting my job to focus solely on huge areas of sin in my life. There's probably a lesson in there somewhere.

    I've experienced many of the same things Chaz has, and at his age, so this story meant a lot to me in particular. Mike at ADC is a good guy. Though I don't know him personally, I've benefited from his faithful work in the past.

    The hard part about all of this is that we fall for these things because we know God is real, not because we want all the perks the prophecies offer. God can speak. God can deliver. God can impart spiritual gifts. We desire them and chase after them because we're chasing after Him, and somehow we miss Him in the chaos.

    I've been around a while now. And if I've learned anything from my experiences with all of this, it's that the Holy Spirit is right there, even after the shaking and electricity aren't. When I stopped conflating the feelings/emotion with His presence - faith really started to bloom. Thank you so much for writing this. May God's blessing rest on you and your family.

    1. Wow, thank you for your insight and sharing your story! It means a lot.

  2. Wow! Thank you for sharing, and being so transparent. I have recently faced this realization and truth about the NAR movement. It has been quietly inserting itself into churches. It’s so sad what is happening. I’m so lost in music. I don’t know what music to listen to anymore. Could you give me a few artists so I can start building up my library?

    1. I think Shane and Shane is pretty good but I guess I more listen to the lyrics and if it matches up to scripture, we play it. I tend to stay away from Bethal's music for sure.


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